How to Test Bakelite Celluloid - How to Tell the Difference - Testing Bakelite Celluloid Lucite,

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hey guys it's Margaret Texas Scout

treasures and in this video we're going

to be talking all about bakelite reflect

and celluloid so this month is plastics

month in our jewelry group on Facebook

jewelry lovers and sellers so we are

focusing on learning all about bakelite

celluloid and lucite so let's get

started with bakelite what is bakelite

bakelite is a phenolic resin that was

invented in 1907 and was used for

everything from Radio cases and

telephone cases to jewelry and buttons

next up we have celluloid celluloid was

an earlier plastic started earlier than

bakelite and was used in everything from

films and movies to jewelry and buttons

it is a lot more brittle and definitely

more flammable so be careful when you're

just in your celluloid if you're using

any of the hot methods because it is

flammable and then we have lucite lucite

another form of plastic it's much harder

and very versatile it's in almost every

color there's all sorts of styles

varieties and everything from

transparent to opaque these are a few

different types there's a type of lucite

that is called confetti lucite that has

glittery things in it and this is

another type of confetti lucite that's

got inclusions that makes it look a bit

like amber so let's talk about one of

the methods for testing bakelite

celluloid and lucite one of the really

common methods is the hot water or smell

test what you'll do is get a cup of hot

water or a bowl and you'll dip your item

in and then you will smell it and when

you smell it it will give off a very

distinctive odor now I'm going to invite

in a couple other friends that are not

they're not friends a couple other items

that are not bakelite lucite or

celluloid and the reason I'm having them

come over is because I tested them when

I was going through the testing methods

for all of these

and they also are something else and

have very distinctive odors so when you

find things like this I want you to know

what they smell like so you'll be able

to identify them properly the first step

bakelite when you dip bakelite in the

hot water or if you're out and about and

you find some you think is bakelite

right you can rub it on not your hand

rub it on your jeans or something that's

going to cause some friction and then

you'll smell it and it should smell like

formaldehyde take as well does it smell

like your science classroom next up is

celluloid when you test celluloid with a

hot water method it's going to smell

like camphor or some people describe it

as a vicks vapor rub moth ball kind of

smell or even a little vinegary so these

ones smells really strongly of camphor

or kind of like a mothball smell when I

tested them in the hot water method

again if you're using say a hot needle

method which I don't really recommend

that these ones would be really

flammable so be careful when you're

testing celluloid flammable and then we

have our super versatile lucite lee site

when you test it with a hot water method

shouldn't really smell like anything

odorless so there's that okay so my few

other pieces of jewelry that I wanted to

come on and talk about are these too so

this first one was an item that was in

my grandmother's collection I remember

her telling me that it was really

valuable and so I should take care of it

but I couldn't remember what it was so

when I started testing things out for

bakelite I thought you know what let me

go get that because it feels plastic

it's really lightweight and I'll just

test it out so when I did the hot water

method on this brace necklace I knew

almost immediately what it was because

just last month in jewelry lovers and

sellers we were talking for one - for

less we were talking all about amber and

this is a kind of amber it's either

lemon or egg yolk amber now when you dip

amber in hot water it's going to smell


beep like a forest Eitri sappy kind of

smell it's really a rich deep smell so

as soon as I dip this smell that Amber

smell and new okay I took it to my

bathroom turned out the lights took out

my UV light and sure enough that put the

glowed so yeah if you are interested in

learning more about how to test amber I

will link video here that I did

so definitely grandmother was right this

is a valuable necklace because it is

again I have to decide if I would

consider that lemon or egg yolk amber

now the other two items I knew what they

were but thought I would go ahead and

pull them out and test them because they

weren't too dissimilar from my bakelite

bracelet it has that tortoiseshell kind

of look even though this one's a bit

redder this is more of a root beer so

that well let me go ahead and pull these

out and test them as soon as I dipped

these in the hot water they smelt like

burning hair so if you come across

something that you think might be

bakelite they feel plasticky you dip

them in that hot water

they smell like burning hair you know

you're handling tortoiseshell now these

were also in my grandmother's collection

this is an endangered specie so they are

not okay to sell so they will just stay

now in my collection so the next testing

method for testing bakelite is using

Simic roam polish which is a metal

polish so be careful when you're using

this because it is an abrasive if you're

interested in purchasing some Simar

chrome polish to have on hand I have a

link down in the description box where

you can order some from Amazon so when

you test bakelite using Simek chrome

polish it will come out like a yellow

kind of like a dark tobacco yellow color

so there's that so first however let's

test some celluloid so these items even

though I know they're celluloid I want

to show you what happens when I test

them with the simichrome polish so all

you'll need to do is get a little bit on

your cotton swab or q-tip

cotton-ball whatever you want to use and

if you see it's got this kind of pink

it's like a bubblegum pink really pastel

light color pink

like so and then you're going to find a

spot that's not too conspicuous where

you can Reb you can see I've been

practicing over here so it's clean to

that that's for sure and you will rub

the item and see what color comes up

alright so if you can see there was a

little bit of a change to it but it just

it still looks pink but it's kind of

like a dirty kind of a dirty pink now so

when I first tested these with the


I tested them on the back because I

wanted it to be in a really

inconspicuous spot and I tested it with

simha chrome before I did the hot water

method on these so I got pretty excited

because when I tested it with the yellow

instead of just showing up nothing it

did turn a yellowy color if you can see

that a little bit of a yellow color

there so at first I thought oh boy these

are going to be bakelite but then I

realized as I was testing some other

items that sometimes the color of the

dye will come off on the q-tip so I

flipped them over and I decided to test

the colored portion on the inside and

when I did that you'll see that the kind

of bluish brown color of the center is

coming off as well so if this was

bakelite it would not do that it would

not rub the color off onto the

simichrome so this is why it's really

useful to make sure that you use more

than one method when you're checking

your items to find out if they're

bakelite celluloid or anything and not

just relying on the one because you

could get a false positive and start

selling something that would get you an

item not as described if you're selling

on eBay or a very unhappy customer if

you sold these buttons as bakelite to

somebody on Etsy for eBay either way so

for the bakelite again you just need a

little bit find an inconspicuous spot

and it should come out this yellowy kind

of like tobacco yellow color on the

q-tip there we go like so thanks so much

for watching you guys I hope you found

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will talk to you next time thanks so

much guys bye