hello and welcome to another edition of
ask cheeky I'm Isiah Henkel a cheeky
scientist and today we have a great
question from Michelle dully through
LinkedIn I asked a researcher at a
company to provide feedback on my resume
when I sent it I have been doing this to
get different opinions good idea this is
part of his answer quote-unquote lastly
please add the list of your publications
to the end of your resume even
potentially the list of journals where
you worked as a reviewer the resume
format isn't constrained to pages if you
have more than 30 papers you might want
to add up to five different pages PhD
resumes are always longer so what's the
deal
cheeky scientist our publications
important to include on industry resumes
or not so great question
you know and for anybody who asks other
professionals out there whether or not
they should add publications to the
resume or if you ask for any sort of job
search advice in general to the general
public or in general to industry
professionals you're going to get a
variety of answers the key here is to
realize that just because somebody is
working in industry doesn't mean that
they are a professional hiring manager
or professional recruiter it doesn't
mean that they know how you know that
they're a professional in the job search
or the job hiring industry everybody has
their own expertise and everybody has
their own experiences now what we see a
lot we get a lot of questions like these
and what often happens is that somebody
asks a lifetime academic write an
academic researcher or they ask somebody
in industry who's been working at the
bench and you know who values
publications quite a bit and these
people of course say well you should of
course include your publications because
it's the most important thing in the
world but again you have to know your
audience here you're asking a hiring
manager at the company you're applying
to and they tell you to include a list
of publications by all means do so but
that's the only time that you should
include a list of publications only when
you're asked specifically by the company
you're applying to every other time you
should just keep your resume to two
pages and do not include an EndNote
style list of publications on your
resume you know the biggest reason for
this is because especially early on in
the interviewing process
when you're doing your phone screens or
your Skype video calls your Skype video
interviews you're going to be talking to
hiring managers and recruiters and very
often these people do not have a high
you know high level technical
information nor do they care about your
publications in fact it can be annoying
to them to see a list of publications on
a resume especially because you should
know if you've done your homework that
hiring managers and recruiters only
spend five to seven seconds on a resume
now by all means if you want to include
the number of publications that you have
in your professional summary and one of
the bullet points in that your
professional summary at the top of your
resume and what we call is the visual
Center by all means do that if you
published in nature or another Journal
and you know that you're very proud of
or just take the best journaling
published in and you can include that in
that bullet point as well you could say
you know don't XYZ resulting in eleven
publications including a nature
publication on XYZ right so that's all
you need to do do not need to include it
endnotes not a list right so just
remember who your audience is especially
in the beginning of the interviewing
process make sure that you're
considering who's giving you the advice
when it comes to publications or
anything else that relates to your job
search and then finally remember if they
want something from you they will ask
for it it's not like including your
publications on your resume is going to
make you a better candidate for the job
it's just simply not true especially if
you're putting the number of
publications you have in your best
publication on the top of your resume
all right so you don't need to include
that EndNote style list unless
specifically asked for and down the
track when you're on your own on-site
interview you can bring a list of your
publications with you to give to anybody
that's a head of a department or you
know the head of the research department
to see you so we might ask for that
specifically so so keep this in mind
when you're writing your your resumes
and when you're interacting with hiring
managers and recruiters until next time
remember your value as a PhD can start
in acting like a successful industry
professional